MAY 01 - 15, 2004




Don’t Believe Us? Here Is Limbaugh himself speaking in his own words:

"…we're going to ruin (the) lives (of the soldiers who committed these acts) over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release?" – Limbaugh, May 4, 2004.

by John S. Ashton


MAY 6, 2004 – To quote the first President Bush, "We have Rush." Yes, Rush Limbaugh is a comrade, buddy, and central tool of the new breed of Bush Republican. Current President Bush and Vice President Cheney have appeared on his show numerous times, and he is so central to their success that we at The Moderate Independent refer to these people as Bush/Limbaughians.

Well, we told you a couple of days ago that it is pretty clear that President Bush and his administration of Bush/Limbaughians knew about this abuse and only wanted it covered up, not ended or punished. Many people may have thought we were crazy.

Originally this article was going to be part two of "Hasn’t Anybody Ever Talked To A Republican," laying out clearly that not only did the President know, but Bush supporters across America have known this type of abuse has been taking place AND are happy about it.

Now, I was going to point out how I’ve talked to numerous Republicans who have bragged about how we must be abusing these people. They pointed out that this is what we always do, in fact.

You don’t believe this, think it is just a few soldiers gone bad? Then answer this question for me: where did all those hoods come from? You think they designed and made them there in the middle of the desert? No, they were standard issue from the intelligence community, given to these soldiers working in the prisons, who were also given instructions on how to abuse/interrogate the prisoners.

So my article was going to point out this simple reality and you were going to have to take my word for it. But, thanks to Rush, you don't. For those of you who doubt that these Bush/Limbaugh Republicans not only are not offended by the abuse that has occurred but in fact embrace it, here is Rush in his own words, as reported by Media Matters and posted on Rush's website:

CALLER: It was like a college fraternity prank that stacked up naked men --

LIMBAUGH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You heard of need to blow some steam off?

So there you have it. Limbaugh in his own words, these scum Bush/Limbaugh Republicans bragging about their amorality, justifying any abuse. When we compare them to the Nazis, some people still doubt they are that bad.


We have concentration camps set up - crammed with people who have not right to legal council or oversight to protect them from torture or abuse, or even hearings to determine if there is any reason they are there.

Still, people doubt it.

We have offensive wars waged based on fictional threats.

Still people doubt it.

But above and beyond all this, we have the bullying mentality of a people who will not lose, who use intimidation and attack viscously as a threat to the nation any dissenters. And we have a group who embraces lying and embraces killing and embraces the complete discarding of human rights.

Don't take our word for this, just try listening to a Bush/Limbaugh Republican sometime. They are the Nazis.

To them, this abuse of those dumb Muslims is just "having a good time." If it were an American just being shown on TV, they cry it violates the Geneva convention and shows how horrible "those people" are, justifies going to war against these barbarians. But if we strip, humiliate, and torture them, that is good 'ol fun, "blowing some steam off."

Yes, these are the good 'ol lynchers from the South who used to blow off some steam stringing up black people. And most importantly, this man who said this, Rush Limbaugh, is one who President Bush and Vice President Cheney embrace.

These comments from Limbaugh should be sent to every congressperson, every senator, every newspaper, and President Bush should be forced to condemn Limbaugh and demand a retraction and refuse to ever have anything to do with his show again.

It is one thing to claim, as Bush does, he didn't know anything about the abuses, but to justify and embrace them, anyone American who continues to listen to his show makes clear they also embrace the abuse.

But in reality, we knew that already. Everyone who voted for President Bush voted for such abuses to occur - they voted for a group of people who had done the same exact thing last time they were in office, in Central America and around the world. It is no excuse for the people who voted for this President to claim they were unaware. They voted for a man who made the king-of-all-human-rights-abuse-cover-ups, John Negroponte, our UN Ambassador. They voted for a man who did this because this is the sort of person he and those around him like, the sort of thing they consider teamwork, the sort of amoral, cruel actions they consider good for America - truly. That is what they call foreign policy, abuse the hell out of those bastards to bring them in line, just make sure we don't let it get out.

If these photos didn't come out, nothing would have changed at this point - and, in fact, the Bushies tried to stop the photos from coming out.

What we saw this past week in those photos was not a current unfortunate instance in a prison or two in Iraq, it was a glimpse into the true home photo album of President Bush and those around him.

We told you almost a year ago that the real lesson of 9/11 wasn't that we needed to kill more crazy Arabs, nor that we should have had better intelligence. The lesson of 9/11 was that Americans need to pay attention to what their government is doing around the world, in Colombia, Venezuela, the Middle East, because what you don't notice will come back one day as massive terrorist actions or wars. (see: The Lesson Of 9/11)

Americans - those who voted for Bush - are directly responsible for the abuses that occurred. And so are elected Democrats, as they have not stood up against the appointment of Negroponte, and they still - at this very moment - are not standing up against abuses far worse that we are financing with hundreds of millions of dollars in Colombia and elsewhere.

For generations this is what America has been doing around the world, and we who speak up get called liars or unpatriotic. But now you have the facts: that anyone who supports President Bush is an amoral, pro-abuse, anti-American piece of scum who is, in fact, a direct parallel to the Nazis as they were in the 1930's.

If the abuse that is happening in Iraq is just "having a good time" or "blowing some steam off," just wait until these people really decide they're in the mood for an all out party. And they will, if we don't stand now boldly and in unison as a nation and find real leadership from both the Democratic Party and people with morals within the Republican Party.

As we have told you again and again, this is not about conservative vs. liberal or Democrat vs. Republican, this is simply good Americans with actual moral values against heinous, un-American scum with none.






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