NOV 15-30, 2005

VOL. 3 ISSUE 12

 

 

Hell Yes We Should Pull Out Of Iraq Now – We Should Have Long Ago

The Real Reason We Are Still There Has Nothing To Do With Terrorism or Democracy

by Thomas J. Bico

 

 

NOVEMBER 22, 2005 – Last week Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) raised a firestorm by suggesting it was time to pack up and troops and come home from Iraq.

 

Contrary to the nonsensical distortions of Republicans in response, Murtha said that he was not advocating anything resembling a surrender but rather acknowledging that we obtained victory long ago and have no further reason to be there.

 

This Wall Street Journal article gives a nice rundown on the fact that Murtha did not just form this opinion from nowhere or suddenly “flip-flop.”  From the beginning, he was saying, Bush is going about this the wrong way, and it can’t be won as he wants to do it.

 

It gives links to this article from before the war  in which Murtha laid out that, “''All of us want to get rid of Saddam,'' Murtha says. But he believes that the younger Bush ''went about it the wrong way,'' and this article from May of 2004 in which Murtha lays out that, “We cannot prevail in this war as it is going today…  We either have to mobilize or we have to get out."

 

That was almost a year ago, and clearly we have not mobilized anymore since then.

 

Murtha’s main argument now is that we went there for WMD’s and to get Saddam.  There are no WMD’s, we’ve gotten Saddam, so why are we still there?

 

Now the Republicans are fighting back with their holier-than-thou lies, giving their disingenuous, FOX News-brand answer to why we are supposedly still there.  The “terrorists,” they say, and “democracy,” throwing strong-sounding but inaccurate claims.  And the Democrats don’t quite have the courage yet to really lay out the simple reality:  that not only shouldn’t we stay in Iraq now, that we should have pulled out long ago – and, that the reason we are still there has nothing to do with terrorists or democracy.

 

As we wrote back on December 16, 2003:

 “If the police broke into someone’s house and trashed the place entirely, killed the pet dog and two of the kids, because they thought there were drugs in the apartment, but it turned out, after they searched and searched and searched, that they had been given a bad tip and there never were drugs to begin with – those police would have some answering to do and a price to pay."

The reality is that the law makes plain what should have been done in Iraq.  For those who supported the “preemptive” war based on “intelligence” about WMD’s, once we found out there were none, we had no other choice but to leave and pay the price for our misguided actions.  It’s just that simple.  Police who raid a house on a bad tip (or because they made up supposed tips) must, upon finding nothing, immediately leave.  It is not an option – to repeat, not an option – to remain and keep the place.  Even if you think the guy is a drug kingpin, if you show up and find nothing, you must go.

 

But we didn’t leave when we didn’t find WMD’s, and we didn’t leave when got Saddam.  And the reality is, as I pointed out Jay Diamond’s WRKO-Boston radio show a while back, that we are never – never – going to leave Iraq.  Ever.  We are not there because of “terrorists,” we are not there because of democracy.

 

As we pointed out back in May 2003 in this article http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i3inept.htm :

“All along it seemed that Bush was possibly inept diplomatically, and that's why the multinational coalition didn't form and UN resolutions failed.  The reality is that President Bush never wanted the support of France, Germany, Russia, and the UN. In fact, he wanted to avoid having it at all costs…
 

“Before even the first week of the war was over, Vice President Dick Cheney's old company, Haliburton, was given a $400+ million dollar contract - they said it was for putting out the 7 oil fires that were burning.  As we now know, Haliburton has also been given control of pumping and distributing Iraq's oil for the foreseeable future (see CNN story).  All of this was given to Dick Cheney's old company during just the first week of the war, in, as is no secret, a secret, closed "bidding" process (see CNN story)…

 

“…when you start looking at the realities of Operation Iraqi Freedom, you have to start questioning.  The first U.S. Marine to die died securing an oil field.  The first task accomplished was securing oil fields.  Even during President Bush's address to the nation on the eve of war, when he said he had a message for the Iraqi troops, before he said not to use chemical weapons, before he said not to commit atrocities, the first thing he said to them, with all of America and the world watching, was, "Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people."  Before saying don't use weapons of mass destruction.

 

Can't imagine that is true?  Here is the full quote (you can read the full text of the speech on the government's own website):

 

"And all Iraqi military and civilian personnel should listen carefully to this warning. In any conflict, your fate will depend on your action. Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people. Do not obey any command to use weapons of mass destruction against anyone, including the Iraqi people. War crimes will be prosecuted. War criminals will be punished. And it will be no defense to say, "I was just following orders."" 

The reality is that “terrorists,” which never existed in Iraq before we made them through our actions, and “democracy” have nothing to do with why we are still in Iraq.  In fact, many of the “terrorists” who are there now popped up because they saw what was happening:  that we were never leaving, but instead going to stay to ensure we had control of whatever government was there so… we could have control of the oil.

 

Everyone seems to forget that we are building and have built massive new “enduring” military bases in Iraq – not exactly a sign of impending withdrawal.  As The Christian Science Monitor reported more than a year ago: 

“…a dozen is the number of so-called "enduring bases" located by John Pike, director of GlobalSecurities.org. His military affairs website gives their names. They include, for example, Camp Victory at the Baghdad airfield and Camp Renegade in Kirkuk. The Chicago Tribune last March said US engineers are constructing 14 "enduring bases," but Mr. Pike hasn't located two of them.

 

“Note the terminology "enduring" bases. That's Pentagon-speak for long-term encampments - not necessarily permanent, but not just a tent on a wood platform either. It all suggests a planned indefinite stay on Iraqi soil that will cost US taxpayers for years to come.”

Get the idea yet?  You may not have thought this a big deal, but you can bet the people of Iraq got the idea.  If you don’t think our continued presence there is the reason for the violence, you are not paying attention.  It is not terrorists out to get America, it is Iraqis furious that their nation has been taken and will never be given back, just as you would be if some foreign nation invaded America and started building "enduring" bases here.

 

The simple reality is that of course we should leave Iraq now – Murtha is correct, our troops have accomplished all they were sent to do, and, as many Democratic candidates and elected officials have said, all they do now is put a bad, oppressive, occupational face on our nation, and remain as sitting ducks.

 

And the larger reality is that we should have left Iraq long ago.  Once we knew there were no WMD’s, it was time to get out.

 

But we didn’t leave, and the reality is we never – never – are going to, as long as the Bush/Limbaugh Republicans are in charge.  The only circumstances under which our troops will leave will be if they can leave without leaving.  In other words, we will only leave troops if we have control of the oil through control of whatever government ends up there.  And if you question this, do a reality check for yourself:  do you believe for one second the Bush administration would leave and allow for a new Iraqi government to decide to give oil and rebuilding contracts to Russia or Germany instead of the US?

 

It is time, America, to start putting everything together.

 

Put this information about the “enduring” bases together with this information from our recent article Conservatism is the New Communism:

“Saudi Arabian billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said Tuesday he now holds a 5.5% voting stake in Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (the parent company of FOX News) and is ready to raise his stake, especially if it is necessary to shield Murdoch from any potential hostile takeover attempts by the likes of John Malone's Liberty Media…

"In an interview on CNBC Tuesday, Alwaleed said he has communicated his strategy to Murdoch and was "mobilized and ready" to further boost his voting stake "if we feel that the strategy of Mr. Murdoch and his son and his family is being threatened by any outsider." He added: "Clearly, this is something we will not accept, because we are very happy as shareholders with what Mr. Murdoch is doing."

"A News Corp. spokesman Tuesday declined to comment on the news, but company sources said the Saudi prince has long been regarded by Murdoch as an ally in his showdown with Malone.”

A billionaire Saudi Prince "will not accept" someone changing FOX News from the conservative propaganda station that it is.  He "has long been regarded by (FOX News owner Rupert) Murdoch as an ally..."  He “clearly” will not let anyone change FOX News’ Bush/Limbaugh-conservative-propaganda format because he is “very happy… with what Mr. Murdoch is doing.”

 

It’s time to start looking at the larger picture.  There can be no useful debate on Iraq until America boldly steps through the looking glass and gets the courage to see the plain, obvious reality.  Big-mouthed Republican bitches mouthing the words of marines on the floor of Congress in defense of dishonest and delusional policies is not courage.  Murtha calling for the rapid redeployment of our troops to actually defend our nation rather than secure business deals for Halliburton and American oil companies is courageous.

 

But what would be really courageous is to call things as they are.  The lines about “surrendering” to the “terrorists” or giving up on democracy are nonsense.  Not only must we immediately leave Iraq, we should have done it long ago, as soon as we found out there were no WMD’s.  But more importantly, someone has got to have the balls to call it like it is:  the only reason we are still there – and likely the only reason we are there to begin with – is for the oil, and for the sake of further making America a Saudi-like nation ruled by a single family which controls things with their massive oil wealth and through the use of religion in an extreme form.

 

The truth is so simple it fits all in one sentence, while the liars need 24 hour-a-day propaganda to sell their lies.  Look again at this statement again:

...for the sake of further making America a Saudi-like nation ruled by a single family which controls things with their massive oil wealth and through the use of religion in an extreme form.

It is not even an entire sentence, but it is a truth so plain it becomes obvious with just a handful of words.

 

The Iraq war is not an attempt to free Iraq, it is an attempt to further enslave America in servitude to the family of anarchists named Bush that has entirely taken control of every branch of the government and seeks to dismantle our democracy and replace it with a religious fascist state that exists to perpetuate their own personal power and wealth.  They like war because war is anarchy - they can kill as they wish without trial or lawyers - make a deck of cards and kill everyone whose face they decide to put on it without trial or even clear charges; they can hand out and take our tax dollars as they wish, without accounting or legislative approval for the particulars.  That is what the Bush vision of "freedom" is: anarchy, freedom to commit criminal acts without the impediment of law.

 

America has a different definition of what freedom is, and it is the freedom to pursue happiness in a nation where all men are equal, and where strong arm bullies with no respect for the law are called criminals and locked up accordingly.

 

It is time to get the courage – people in both parties, as well as us Moderate Independents – to deal with this ugly, obvious truth and so to immediately end this mess in Iraq.  The war only exists to perpetuate the anarchistic state of war and further the Bush family's designs on permanently controlling America, turning it into a fascistic, religious state over which they preside, as the Saudi rulers preside over their nation.  The war must be ended immediately.  We must trust in God, that if we do the right thing, which is to end the war right now and make true amends for the wrong we have done, that America will once again live in God's good graces.

 

Or we can just “stay the course” and keep losing five soldiers a day because we are "cowards" who can’t handle the truth.

  

 

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The California Recall Debate

Larry Elder Proves Again To Be The Biggest Pussy On AM Talk Radio

ABC's Peter Jennings Admits ABC Has Been Bullied To The Right By The Bushies

Latest Press Report Ignores Poll, Pretends Arnold Is Still Frontrunner

Press-Trumpeted Lies About The 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals, And The Republican Plan To Take Redistricting To The Courts As Well

Savage Weiner Roasted Due To Anti-gay Rant

Rupert Mudoch On An Anti-American Rampage

Russian News Source 'Pravda' Sues Fox News For Stealing Its Format

AM Talk Host Savage Weiner Comes Out Of The Closet

CNBC'S Licklow And Kissass Invent 'Miscussion'

How To Still Sound Righteous When Caught Lying And Your Policies Are Found To Be Disastrous

Debunking The Media: ABC News' George Will Calls Vermont Communist

Debunking The Media: Man Kills 2 With Samurai Sword, Right Wing Rushes to Profit Off Of Corpses

Debunking The Media: The Confused, Psychotic Defining of "Conservative"

Debunking The Media: Texas Republicans Use Homeland Security Dept. To Try And Locate President Bush's Morals

Did Someone Actually Say "Liar"?

Right-Wing Commentators Distraught Murdoch Can't Buy Whole Internet

AM Radio Host Debate a Disaster

Australian-Owned Fox News, USA Today, NY Post Push "True American Agenda"

Axis of Murdoch Decides Who To Occupy Next

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Arts/Entertainment

Ben Affleck Overheard Begging Matt Damon To Pinch His Ass In Public

Kelly Clarkson Ordered To Undergo Mental Evaluation

American Artists Vow To Continue Expressing Nothing Through Their Work

Dixie Chicks Treated With Southern Courtesy and Respect

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Elections 2004

Let The Landslide Begin

Anyone Who's Questioned If The Bushies Really Are Nazis, Look At Their Election Day Strategy

Bush's Final Moments: Desperation And Amorality Dominate The Final Days

Swan Song: Bushies Begin To Realize Their Fall Is Imminent, As Internal Polling Shows Little Hope And Even Their Most Loyal Constituents Begin To Cut Their Losses

Endgame: The Final Week Of The Campaign. What Does The Bush/Limbaugh Right Have In Store, And What Will Election Day Be Like

So Good, We'll Give It A Link - We Almost Never Put Links To Other Sites Up On Our Main Page, But This Site Hits Right On The Head The Issue That Has Been Entirely Absent From This Election - And Is Funny As Heck

What Do George W. Bush, The US Olympic Basketball Team, The LA Lakers, And The New York Yankees Have In Common?

Schwarzenegger Fires A Shot Across The Bow, The First Shot Of The Coming Republican Civil War

See What Happens When You Actually Fight Back - Sinclair In Deep Doodoo, As Stockholders Threaten Their Entire Operation

The Real Winner Of The Debates: John Edwards

Lynne And Dick Cheney Display Why Bush/Cheney Will Lose By A Landslide

Was This The Rush Limbaugh Show Or A Non-Partisan Debate?

VP Debate: Edwards Pulls The Mask Off Of Darth Cheney

Debate Number One - Shh... Don't Tell The Bushies, But George, Jr. Is About To Get Shellacked

Disaster For Bush:  America Clearly Sees At Last That The Emperor Is Naked

The Kerry Curve

Here Is The Next Part Of The Bush Campaign Script:  What Their Debate Strategy Is (Hint:  It Has Little To Do With Trying To Get W To Do Well In The Debates)

American Research Group Poll: Kerry Still Leading

Non-Moderate Independent Press To M/I; "Call Off Your Attacks Dogs"

Here It Comes, The Right-Wing Machine Starts Cranking Out Fictional Polls

Where Are The Stories About Bush Getting "No Bounce" Like They Ran About Kerry - Plus! CNN Anchor Comes Out Of The Closet As Limbaugh Lover

President Bush Uses Millions Of Taxpayer Dollars To Promote His Re-election

The Republican Convention: Is This Madison Square Garden Or Bellevue Mental Ward?

It's Time For McCain To Put Up Or Shut Up

Direct Hit! Captain Kerry Nails Bush And His Blame-And-Lie Machine

Republicans To Hold Democrat's Convention

Kerry Walking Into Minefield We Warned About! Entire Election Is In Jeopardy

Bush:  Kerry Is Right, The Rich Don't Pay Taxes On My Watch

The Whole Caboodle

Rounding Up The Democratic Convention

The Democratic Convention

ARG'S BENNETT:  Battleground States Trending Kerry

Reaction To Edwards From Hollywood Stars At Kerry Event

Look, We Told You Months Ago Kerry Would Win By A Landslide

John Kerry, Leader Or Loser?

Kerry Surges Ahead In Swing State, As VP Begins To Look More And More Likely

The Road To A John Kerry Landslide Continues

Kerry's Secret Weapon

Who John Kerry Must Choose As His Running Mate

Bush In A Lot Of Trouble

President Bush Comes Out Of The Gate With Lies Blaring

Any Questions? The right-wing hit on Kerry takes him form unbeatable to almost beaten in just 4 days

The Strange Death of the Woman Who Filed a Rape Lawsuit Against Bush

Right-Wing Breaks Out: "Kerry Had A Recent Affair With An Intern"  

Clark Makes It Official - he Is Canning His Campaign

Kerry Ko's Clark  - Edwards, Dean Still Remain

Feb 3 Primaries - Each Of The Top 3 Get Not Quite What They Wanted, But Exactly What They Needed

Mobilization, Enthusiasm Will Determine If Kerry Delivers Knockout Blow Or If There Are Two Equal Frontrunners On Tuesday Evening

The New Republic: Kerry Sent Both Letter Opposing And Letter Supporting First Gulf War To Same Constituent 

Midday Election Update - Gen Clark Takes On Kerry's Doublespeak, Republican Caught Pushing Edwards'

A Little Different When The Fox Is Run Out Of The Hen House

What Happened In New Hampshire - Putting All Together

Zogby Caught In Interview Admitting His Latest Poll Is Bunk

New Fox Reality Show Debuted Last Night In New Hampshire: Who Wants To Be An Ass Kissing Right-Wing Wonk

Enough Of The Day To Day Polls - What To Expect Over The Next Week In New Hampshire

The Hit Is On - Inside The Right-Wing's Strategy

Yes, We Told You So - And We Have Some More To Tell You

The Republican Party Platform

Making Sense Of The Iowa Mess - Within What Seems An Undecided Jumble Is A Clear Message

Right-Wing Launches Dishonest Smear Attack On Clark

Gen Clark Unleashes A Bold Tax Plan With One Distinct Advantage Over Those Of The Other Candidates: It's Easily Communicable 

People Calling Older New Hampshire Voters - General Clark's Strongest Supporting Group - And Telling Them They Can't Vote<<

OK, Now The Entire Press Is Reporting What We Reported On Dec 16, That Clark Is Rising, Dean Falling

Dean Shows Himself To Be No Different Than President Bush

Two Polls Confirm Clark's Rise And Deans Slight Sag

Bush Makes A Hard, Multi-Pronged Pitch For The Latino Vote

Dean On The Way Down

Rounding Up The Reactions - What Do The Democrats Have To Say About The Capture Of Saddam

Democrats Start To Get The Feel For Standing Up To The Media In Horribly Moderated Debate

Confirmation Of Clark's Rise Toward Front-Runner Status Comes Quickly

Inside The Campaigns - One Campaign Rising, One Holding Strong, One On The Way Out

Why People Love Howard Dean

Analysis: "How Dare They Be Angry That I Am A Liar Who Is Destroying The Nation!"

Democratic Presidential Hopefuls Disgrace Themselves, Hurt Their Election Changes By Bashing Clark For Being An Independent

Why Clark's Entry Into The Race Hurts Dean And Helps Kerry

Reassessing The Candidates

Cal Recall Update:  9th Circuit Court Of Appeals Recalls The Recall

Who Won Sept. 5 Dem. Debate?

Democrats Debate:  In Their Own Words, The Sept. 5 Debate

Reassessing The Candidates

A Presidential Study In Ignorance And A Warning For Those Who Would Vote For Arnold

Dean Vs. Bush, According To The Corporate-Owned-And-Operated Media

Make No Mistake, For One Party The 2004 Presidential Election Has Already Begun

Dean In Charge

Rating The Dems On The Issues

The Moderate Independent Rates The Democratic Hopefuls Based On How Moderate And Independent They Are

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Historical

Great Quotes From Thomas Jefferson

"A Great Nation Like Ours Will Never Fall!" A Collection Of Quotes From Pericles, Constantine, Napoleon, and Gorbachev

George Pissed About French Interference With War

The History Of The 1st Amendment

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World

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao Confused By Total Lack Of Enemies

Fashion Critics Doubt Lula's New Look For Real

Northrop, Occidental To Sponsor Shakira's Columbian Tour

Powerful French, German, Russian Alliance Shows Strength By Letting US Occupy Iraq, Take Its Oil

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Awards

The M/I Hero Of The Month Award Goes To Conservative Republican Tom McClintock

Coming Out Of The Closet Award: Country Music's Integrity On Display

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Polls

Poll Results - Proof M/I Readers Are The Best Informed People Around

See Who MI Readers Picked For First Choice For President in 2004

See what your fellow M/I readers had to say about their loyalty or lack of it to the current face of the Republican Party

Rating the War on Terror

Thoughts On Speaking Out During a War

Has President Bush Kept His Promise To Be A Uniter, Not A Divider

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